Comments on: Canada/U.S. quiz #1: VFR operations

By: Niagara falls

Niagara falls — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:01:25 +0000

Niagara Falls, they show a pattern of flight over the falls that crosses the border and comes back. I know you can do that in the Canadian side .

By: david

david — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:21:32 +0000

lowaltituderecord: unfortunately, I don’t have any experience flying around Niagara Falls, but COPA or AOPA might have some resources.

By: lowaltituderecord

lowaltituderecord — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:15:20 +0000

Thank for the info David, I often fly between 1000agl and the bottom of Boston at 3000msl but it looks like it’s a lot tighter up there, I think 200 feet in places around Woodbridge. If it was the case that I’d wind up getting vectored around, then I wouldn’t bother them with such a request, I’ll check the winds, and see if they favor those runways before I ask them, thanks for the heads up.

Regardless, I’ll have a sectional as well as my GNS430, to fly into CKYZ from the east, and I’ll pick up a terminal chart, and do some asking around when I get there before I take off on my sight seeing excursion.

One other question while I’m at it if you don’t mind. I was looking at the restricted area over Niagara Falls, they show a pattern of flight over the falls that crosses the border and comes back. I know you can do that in the US, across the ADIZ, but you tell ATC your intentions and get a squawk code so customs radar knows what your up to. Have you ever done that flight (Niagara Falls)?

Thanks for your help.

Steve

By: david

david — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:34:32 +0000

lowaltituderecord: we use exactly the same aviation measurements as the U.S.: knots for speed, feet for runway length, elevation, altitude, etc., statute miles for visibility, and degrees Celsius for temperature.

Like in the Boston terminal area, getting clearances depends on what runways are in use at the big airport, how busy ATC is, and whether you sound like you know what you’re doing. I think you’d probably be able to get clearances into terminal airspace as far north as Vaughan and King City, though you would have (just) enough space below the shelf if you wanted to do it in class E. You might have to take a roundabout way to get there from Buttonville, though, if Pearson’s using 24L/R or 06L/R — just draw lines from the runways on your map, and you’ll get a good idea what you’ll be up against.

By: lowaltituderecord

lowaltituderecord — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:26:37 +0000

Oh yeah another question, they still use feet and knots, for altitude and airspeed, right?

By: lowaltituderecord

lowaltituderecord — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:24:32 +0000

You only get multiple clearances to land once you’ve communicated to the tower that you have the traffic ahead of you in sight. Sharp pilots save time by telling the tower, when they call downwind, that they have (for example) the cessna turning base in sight. Otherwise, they won’t clear you till the other guy lands, at least around Boston Delta’s it’s that way.

So if I understand this correctly I would have to get clearance from Toronto approach to go flying north of the city (Vaughan and King). It looks like you can’t stay under the C and remain 1000 AGL for much of that area. Anyone know how are they for that sort of thing on a Sunday morning when it’s not too busy? If you take off from Buttonville, can you tell ground your intentions, get a squawk code, and have them hand you off to Toronto approach?

Otherwise if you have to have clearance before you enter their airspace I guess I’ll just hold somewhere in Buttonville’s airspace, call, and see if they’ll let me in. Otherwise forget about it and just fly north where I can get under the C and just get flight following.

I grew up around there and wanted to do some sight seeing. Trying to find out how they do things before I go up, any help would be appreciated.

By: Matthew

Matthew — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:56:17 +0000

I beleive that canada is now issueing landing clearences to multiple aircraft landing on the same runway. I was a little thrown off when i heard it, but i think it’s a new concept up here.

By: aircraft parts

aircraft parts — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:47:27 +0000

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By: aircraft cabin pressure

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By: Paul Tomblin

Paul Tomblin — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:31:56 +0000

In the US, there are a couple of mountains where you could be above 18,000 but below 1200 AGL, which counts as class G.